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I’ve had a highly amusing comment on the entry I made about W Ketchup last month. If you remember, this was a ketchup for people who refused to buy Heinz because of its links to the Kerry campaign, but still wanted some tomato-flavoured ooze on their freedom fries. And unlike Heinz’s product, all the profits stayed within America instead of being taken overseas. I’ve quoted the comment below along with my retorts.

Wow. It appears that you liberals have found one more thing to whine about, and have done that to the utmost perfection.

Okay, we’ve established the author’s intelligence here. Had the author looked around some of the other entries here, he’d probably realised that I’m not some kind of whiny liberal. Sure, I’m liberally-minded and Bush’s policies give me plenty to whine about but I tend not to use this site for an outlet for those.

Of course it won’t help struggling overseas nations!!! If you are so concerned about the unemployment you’d be happy the jobs stay here!!

Firstly, define “here”. I think you’re under the mistaken view that England is another US state, which it isn’t. Furthermore, the UK has some of its lowest ever levels of unemployment right now.
But anyway, we’ll assume that you mean the US. Sure, the unemployment rate is high, but it’s a lot better than in struggling overseas nations. There, many aren’t in employment and if they do work it’s doing hard manual labour just to earn enough for their family to survive. At least the unemployed in the US get government aid.

In addition, you conveniently left out the part about 5% of W Ketchup’s profits going to a scholarship fund for the children of killed American soldiers!! Oh, what a terrible cause is that! No, instead let’s give to some random country!

So, a few kids who’ve lost their parents in an unjustified war in Iraq get money, instead of those in Africa where none of the children can currently afford to go to school, or, for that matter, even eat properly? What anout all those children dying of starvation and disease on refugee camps in Sudan? Wouldn’t that be a much better use of the 5% of the profits?
Now I don’t know Heinz’s record here but the very fact that someone thinks that a few kids who’ve lost their parents in the world’s richest country are more deserving of help than those in an impoverished African nation who’ve probably also lost their parents, are starving, ill and have no possessions whatsoever defeats me.
I don’t know whether FairTrade products exist in America, but in the UK these are becoming increasingly popular as people realise that buying those instead of non-FairTrade products mean that farmers and producers in poor countries get a much better deal. A recent Guardian investigation (sorry, left-wing liberal newspaper here) found that FairTrade products made a real difference to peoples’ lives in foreign countries – farmers were able to live in proper houses instead of mud huts, and their children were getting a decent education instead of having to do manual labour to provide enough money for the family to survive.

Thank you sirs, and I dislike you, Mr. Turner, for your horrific mutilation of the facts.

This was actually the second posting of this comment – a couple of minutes before, the following was posted instead:

Thank you sirs, and I hate you Mr. Turner. I hate you.



  1. I must say that was good, but he’s not quite “Moron Of The Year” material. Still, a good showing none-the-less.
    If I had a dime for every semi-literate rabid response some of my entries have generated over the years, well, I’d have a lot of dimes.

  2. Then you could buy a pizza. Mmm, Pizza.

  3. Amusing! FWIW – The U.S. does have Fair Trade products, but it’s very limited at the moment…mostly coffee in my area.
    What never ceases to amaze me is how people mistakenly tie Heinz products in with the Kerry campaign. If they did a little research, they’d see that the Heinz family has not been involved with the company since the 1970s. Theresa Heinz-Kerry sits on the board of the Heinz Foundation, which is not related to the company, and she owns fewer than 5,000 shares of stock in the company. The company and it’s chief executives, in fact, are contributors to the Bush campaign.

  4. Whilst I think your original post seemed to capture the spirit of “W” Ketchup perfectly, I have issues with any suggestion that the poor of one nation are more deserving than another – military family or not. There are some horrifying statistics for things like health, crime, education and employment in America’s poor communities. These are the recruiting grounds in which Bush finds his economic conscripts, and if NGOs are supporting the families they leave behind then more power to them. We know the current regime isn’t going to do anything about their plight.